[Rivet] Rivet Analysis for Z+jets still not publicly available

[Ulla Blumenschein]

Hi again,

ok, found the new ones in
/afs/cern.ch/atlas/groups/Generators/Rivet/Analyses/UNOFFICIAL/ATLAS_2011_I945498

Can someone delete the files in the other directory? I think they will
confuse potential users strongly.

Cheers, Ulla



On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Ulla Blumenschein
<ublumenschein at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Roman,
>
> The files in the afs directory:
> /afs/cern.ch/atlas/groups/Generators/Rivet/Analyses/ATLAS_2011_I945498
> have a time stamp of  April 2013.
> Where are the final versions from summer?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Ulla
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Roman Lysak <lysak at fzu.cz> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Ulla,
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/04/2013 09:49 AM, Ulla Blumenschein wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Roman,
>>>
>>> Could you send me a clear instruction, what people have to do if they
>>> want to use the final version of
>>> ATLAS_2011_I945498 ? Can they used precompiled versions or do they
>>> have to compile themselves?
>>
>> We keep the ATLAS analyses also locally on lxplus in
>>
>> /afs/cern.ch/atlas/groups/Generators/Rivet/Analyses
>>
>> as it is written on web page
>>
>> https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/viewauth/AtlasProtected/RivetMCValidation#Completed_Analyses
>>
>> This particular analysis is in subdirectory:
>>
>> UNOFFICIAL/ATLAS_2011_I945498
>>
>> There is a code (so you can build plugin by yourself using
>> 'rivet-buildplugin RivetATLAS_2011_I945498.so ATLAS_2011_I945498.cc')  and
>> also a compiled plugin so you can directly use it (just make sure it's in
>> your RIVET paths, or just copy to your working directory).
>> There is a plan to make the analyses sitting in that area available for the
>> users by just sourcing one script, but we are not yet there.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> We are seeing some strange features in one of the analysis and I have
>>> the impression that people are using older versions.
>>> If I look e.g. in the 1.8 branch, the .cc and .aida files  have not
>>> been touched since 17 months, so this is obviosly the wrong branch to
>>> use.
>>
>> I can see that Andy already put this analysis into 2012-06-aidarivet branch,
>> so you can even take it from web page.
>> Note, once there will be a new release of rivet, you will not need to do any
>> of this, just setup that particular version and you should have the analysis
>> available.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   Roman
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance,
>>> Ulla
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Roman Lysak <lysak at fzu.cz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Dear Ulla,
>>>>
>>>> the 2011 analysis is already in Rivet:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://rivet.hepforge.org/trac/browser/src/Analyses/ATLAS_2013_I1230812.cc
>>>>
>>>> Regarding ATLAS_2011_I945498, this was validated and I already sent it to
>>>> rivet authors (cc-ing) some time ago.
>>>> As far as I know, there should be a new rivet release tagged very soon,
>>>> so I
>>>> guess it will appear in it then (the Rivet authors could comment maybe).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>    Roman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/29/2013 08:47 PM, Ulla Blumenschein wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> The 2010 Analysis still appears as unvalidated in the official Rivet
>>>>> page:
>>>>> http://rivet.hepforge.org/analyses#ATLAS_2011_I945498
>>>>>
>>>>> The 2011 analysis, ATLAS_2013_I1230812,  doesn't appear at all in the
>>>>> official page
>>>>>
>>>>> Are these analyses now in a public release?
>>>>> Can you please tell me  whom to contact to  finalize the integration
>>>>> into a public release and the display in the official rivet page?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks in advance,
>>>>> Ulla
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Frank Siegert <frank.siegert at cern.ch>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Roman, all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we even still need the "old" analysis, given that
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> new one operates at the same energy and simply has much more
>>>>>>>> statistics?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> physics wise probably not , but I'm not sure what's yours (i.e. Rivet
>>>>>>> authors) policy, e.g. whether you remove any analysis from Rivet after
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> time, etc.
>>>>>>> Anyway, I already fixed the analysis and sent to rivet mailing list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, thanks. There is no removal after a certain time, only if it
>>>>>> remains unvalidated. But I agree with Ulla's point to keep this
>>>>>> analysis alive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As soon as Katharina has confirmed which email address she wants to
>>>>>>>> see used in the info files I can commit it directly (or you can send
>>>>>>>> it to Rivet and I take it from there, either is fine for me).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm o.k. with you directly commit the analysis.
>>>>>>> Once you do this, let us know the revision number (we keep it on our
>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>> page, mainly to make sure the analysis we sent to rivet was really
>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>> in there).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is done now, both on Rivet trunk (2.x):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://rivet.hepforge.org/trac/changeset/1b56f3cb68de5f7a52e845aa240caac3247b88d6/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://rivet.hepforge.org/trac/changeset/18c076e33bf6de6d1be9a154bcf745488846f55d/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and the aida branch (1.8.x):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://rivet.hepforge.org/trac/changeset/adec40756f76f07e6113e52ac96d6cd0892ed3e3/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://rivet.hepforge.org/trac/changeset/d4175dbb5f1ca7bde764322710145e98f99e634e/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (two commits each, because I forgot a few files in the first commits)
>>>>>> The changeset ID in which all of this is included is 4140:18c076e33bf6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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