[Rivet] ATLAS_2014_I1306294

[Hannes Jung]

Hi Andy et al

thanks for your reply.

I re-installed 2.2.0, but still  ATLAS_2012_I1083318  is not found,
although it is in the src directory... never mind, I explicitly recompiled
it and could run with it.

Just another question: for Rivet 1 I had aidaenvelope to produce plots
with uncertainty bands. I did not find anything similar for yoda.
Is something like yodaenvelope existing and available from somewhere ?

thanks again
Cheers
Hannes


> On 18.04.2015, at 18:05, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at cern.ch> wrote:
> 
> On 18/04/15 07:45, Hannes Jung wrote:
>> Hi Andy
>> 
>> thanks for your reply.
>> 
>> Yes, indeed, ATLAS_2014_I1319490 works with 2.2.0, but not with 2.2.1.
>> 
>> Is there a way to find out, with which version the code was compiled ?
> 
> No, I'm afraid not. We always encourage people to be using the newest
> version, so in the run-up to 2.2.0 we'd expect submitted analyses to
> work with 2.1.2, in the run-up to 2.2.1 we'd expect them to work with
> 2.2.0, etc. But we don't have complete control over what we are sent,
> and sometimes they are just plain buggy: if you use those contrib
> analyses you have to be prepared to do a bit of debugging, I'm afraid,
> but once they are part of a proper Rivet release it becomes our job to
> update them along with the core library.
> 
>> But now I have another problem:
>> I want to run with all available W+jet measurements, and especially the 
>> older ones
>> ATLAS_2012_I1083318
>> but it is not in 2.2.0, 
>> I get:
>> [jung at nafhh-cms05]~/scratch-dust/cvs/myrivet-2% rivet --list-analyses ATLAS_2012_I1083318
>> [jung at nafhh-cms05]~/scratch-dust/cvs/myrivet-2% rivet
>> Rivet 2.2.0 running on machine nafhh-cms05.desy.de (x86_64)
>> 
>> and I can't find it in the development area,
>> also not in the pre2.2.1. 
>> It was in 2.1.2, but using this code, I get compilation errors.
> 
> This is very strange. That analysis hasn't been removed from the build,
> isn't preliminary or unvalidated, and is available from my build of the
> Rivet trunk (which is pretty much equivalent to 2.2.1):
> 
> $ rivet --list-analyses ATLAS_2012_I1083318
> ATLAS_2012_I1083318         W+jets production at 7 TeV
> 
> Sorry, it should be there in your installation; I don't know why it
> seems not to be appearing for you :-/  If you want to debug a bit
> further, you can check to see if that analysis class is present in your
> RivetATLASAnalyses.so plugin library. On Linux this is done with
> 
> $ nm -C ~/heplocal/lib/RivetATLASAnalyses.so | grep ATLAS_2012_I1083318
> 
> and I guess either that is portable or there will be some equivalent for
> OS X.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Andy
> 
> 
>>> On 17.04.2015, at 19:54, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at cern.ch> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Hannes,
>>> 
>>> I still don't understand the issue here: the Rivet interface does change
>>> between versions, which is why we still tie analysis releases together
>>> with the core library.
>>> 
>>> I suspect that that analysis from the contrib area works with Rivet
>>> 2.2.0, but needs some code changes for 2.2.1 -- which we've already done
>>> to the version that is included in the 2.2.1 release.
>>> 
>>> This is why the contrib analyses are provided "as is", with no
>>> guarantee, and may require some work to be usable: we didn't write them!
>>> We used to have a contrib/README file which said this explicitly, but
>>> somehow it has disappeared from the contrib area...
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17/04/15 17:38, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>>> Dear Andy & Frank
>>>> 
>>>> hm... apologies, I screwed up the mail.
>>>> What I had was 
>>>> 
>>>> ATLAS_2014_I1319490.cc: In member function 'virtual void Rivet::ATLAS_2014_I1319490::analyze(const Rivet::Event&)':
>>>> ATLAS_2014_I1319490.cc:178:80: error: no matching function for call to 'Rivet::JetAlg::jetsByPt(double, const double&, double, double, Rivet::RapScheme) const'
>>>> ATLAS_2014_I1319490.cc:178:80: note: candidates are:
>>>> 
>>>> ... and this is for Rivet2, i think, since it has yoda files...
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for the confusion.....
>>>> but still having the same error..... 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>> cheers
>>>> Hannes
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17.04.2015, at 14:56, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at cern.ch> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Hannes,
>>>>> 
>>>>> a) that analysis is in the contrib area inside a tarball whose name ends
>>>>> in _rivet1, so I guess it is not meant to be used with Rivet 2.x
>>>>> 
>>>>> b) it's also in the contrib/pre-2.2.1 subdir which means that it was
>>>>> developed using Rivet versions *earlier* than 2.2.1
>>>>> 
>>>>> c) the other implication of being in the contrib/pre-2.2.1 dir is that
>>>>> we *have* merged that analysis into the "official" collection from 2.2.1
>>>>> onwards -- in this case including changes related to the Cuts system
>>>>> which has replaced a lot of these lots-of-doubles argument lists e.g.
>>>>> (etamin, etamax, ptmin, ...). So there is no need to download this
>>>>> analysis code at all if you are using Rivet 2.2.1, because it's built-in:
>>>>> 
>>>>> $ rivet --list-analyses ATLAS_2014_I1306294
>>>>> ATLAS_2014_I1306294         Measurement of Z boson in association with
>>>>> b-jets at 7 TeV in ATLAS (electron channel)
>>>>> ATLAS_2014_I1306294_EL      Measurement of Z boson in association with
>>>>> b-jets at 7 TeV in ATLAS, (electron channel)
>>>>> ATLAS_2014_I1306294_MU      Measurement of Z boson in association with
>>>>> b-jets at 7 TeV in ATLAS (muon channel)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17/04/15 13:47, Hannes Jung wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Rivet experts
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I downloaded ATLAS_2014_I1306294 from
>>>>>> https://www.hepforge.org/archive/rivet/contrib/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and got the following error (using Rivet 2.2.1)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ATLAS_2014_I1306294.cc: In member function 'virtual void Rivet::ATLAS_2014_I1306294::analyze(const Rivet::Event&)':
>>>>>> ATLAS_2014_I1306294.cc:137:118: error: no matching function for call to 'Rivet::JetAlg::jetsByPt(double, const double&, double, double, Rivet::RapScheme) const'
>>>>>> ATLAS_2014_I1306294.cc:137:118: note: candidates are:
>>>>>> /afs/desy.de/user/j/jung/scratch-dust/cvs/rivet-2/local/include/Rivet/Projections/JetAlg.hh:78:10: note: Rivet::Jets Rivet::JetAlg::jetsByPt(const Cut&) const
>>>>>> /afs/desy.de/user/j/jung/scratch-dust/cvs/rivet-2/local/include/Rivet/Projections/JetAlg.hh:78:10: note:   candidate expects 1 argument, 5 provided
>>>>>> /afs/desy.de/user/j/jung/scratch-dust/cvs/rivet-2/local/include/Rivet/Projections/JetAlg.hh:141:10: note: Rivet::Jets Rivet::JetAlg::jetsByPt(double) const
>>>>>> /afs/desy.de/user/j/jung/scratch-dust/cvs/rivet-2/local/include/Rivet/Projections/JetAlg.hh:141:10: note:   candidate expects 1 argument, 5 provided
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any idea, what I am doing wrong ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>> Hannes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Dr Andy Buckley, Lecturer / Royal Society University Research Fellow
>>>>> Particle Physics Expt Group, University of Glasgow
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Dr Andy Buckley, Lecturer / Royal Society University Research Fellow
>>> Particle Physics Expt Group, University of Glasgow
>> 
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>> Hannes Jung 
>> Email: Hannes.Jung at desy.de 
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>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr Andy Buckley, Lecturer / Royal Society University Research Fellow
> Particle Physics Expt Group, University of Glasgow

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