[Rivet] Wrong latex configuration on some systems

[Andy Buckley]

Ok, thanks Frank. I am slightly wary since this has been such an
unpredictable area before, but since it's a change of less than a factor
of 10 we probably didn't explore this value yet.

Oldrich, how did you reach a value of 12M? Was that the highest round
value that didn't crash your system, or is it a bit more ad hoc than
that? e.g. would 15M also work?

I'll certainly let you know if it messes up on my machine before we make
another release ;-)

In the long run I think re-writing make-plots is still a very good idea,
although of course none of us get much academic cachet for doing such
things. I recently started again on some hacking with David Mallows'
amazing TeX/Cairo hybrid rendering system, after a 6 month break --
playing with plot cosmetics is rather fun since you see the results
immediately! It looks very much like make-plots, but is technically a
lot nicer and much faster. I'll circulate a test version to this Rivet
dev list for people to play with, once I've made it a bit more
presentable, and hopefully we can transition to that in the next year
(I'm being realistic: it will take that long to find manpower to
translate the make-plots logic and debug to the extent that's needed).

Andy


On 17/03/14 13:20, Frank Siegert wrote:
> Hi Andy, Oldrich,
> 
> I think going from 70M to 12M should be acceptable, if that gives us
> an additional system where it works out of the box. I have committed
> this now and pushed it into the release branch.
> 
> Cheers,
> Frank
> 
> On 17 March 2014 10:02, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at cern.ch> wrote:
>> I thought it already was -- thanks for the reminder! Now done.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On 17/03/14 09:33, Oldrich Kepka wrote:
>>> Hi Andy,
>>>
>>> understood. What about mentioning this issue at Troubleshooting page
>>> until it is resolved (if ever).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 March 2014 09:28, Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at cern.ch> wrote:
>>>> Hi Oldrich,
>>>>
>>>> It's a really annoying problem: too small a memory setting and some
>>>> plots can't be built; too much and TeX dies with this error. And the max
>>>> value is apparently system dependent -- I can guarantee that every Rivet
>>>> release has run correctly on my Ubuntu system (including my current 64
>>>> bit 13.10) but we do periodically get reports like this.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps 32 vs. 64 bit systems matter as well as the OS, but we don't
>>>
>>> Yes, that might be, I have 32 bit.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Oldrich
>>>
>>>
>>>> have a list of acceptable values for different systems, or any idea of
>>>> how to test for it... other than trying out different values in the
>>>> configure script and counting down until TeX doesn't crash. I don't have
>>>> time to try writing and integrating something like that right now (and
>>>> when I do I'd rather spend it on writing a more modern replacement for
>>>> make-plots with fewer TeX requirements!) but maybe someone else would
>>>> like to take up that challenge.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17/03/14 09:07, Oldrich Kepka wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> installing 2.1.0 I get the following error
>>>>>
>>>>> olda at marlowe:~/work/atlas/moudra/ZZ_ATLAS_2012_I1203852$ rivet-mkhtml
>>>>> Rivet.yoda
>>>>> Making 13 plots
>>>>> Plotting ./plots/ATLAS_2012_I1203852/ZZs_ZpT.dat (12 remaining)
>>>>> Plotting ./plots/ATLAS_2012_I1203852/ZZs_mZZ.dat (11 remaining)
>>>>> dvips: DVI file can't be opened: ZZs_ZpT: No such file or directory
>>>>>
>>>>> which with -v option resolves to
>>>>>
>>>>> dvips d06-x01-y01 -f
>>>>> Ouch---my internal constants have been clobbered!---case 14
>>>>>
>>>>> and is a known issue:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/67014/latex-gives-me-the-error-ouch-my-internal-constants-have-been-clobbered
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chaning: main_memory = 70000000 to main_memory = 12000000 in
>>>>>
>>>>> in share/Rivet/texmf/cnf/texmf.cnf
>>>>>
>>>>> solves the problem. It would be nice to have the main_memory set to
>>>>> appropriate values depending on tex instalation distribution, though I
>>>>> have not looked into that myself.  I am using generic ubuntu 13.10
>>>>> texlive-bibtex-extra installation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Oldrich
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr Andy Buckley, Royal Society University Research Fellow
>>>> Particle Physics Expt Group, University of Glasgow / PH Dept, CERN
>>
>>
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