[Rivet] Fwd: Re: [Yoda] Plotting with Yoda?

[Kristin Lohwasser]

Hi all,

thanks for the help, it seems to be working now.

One thing, that I was not aware of... --> you need to change the *.plot 
file *EVEN* if you are using the pre-defined histograms from HEP Data. 
(Not sure, whether I overlooked this or whether it should be mentioned 
somewhere).

I have another, slightly odd request / question (mainly to RIVET):

Is there any possibility to select the leptons (virtual W bosons) from 
semileptonic heavy flavour decays? And then feed these as veto particles 
into the Jet Finding?

Thanks & Cheers
Kristin


On 24.07.2014 11:51, Andy Buckley wrote:
> D'oh, my mail client malfunctioned and forwarded your own message back
> to you. Damn thing. Here is the one I meant to re-send:
>
> Andy
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Yoda] Plotting with Yoda?
> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 22:38:30 +0100
> From: Andy Buckley <andy.buckley at cern.ch>
> Reply-To: andy.buckley at cern.ch
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> On 18/07/14 16:57, Kristin Lohwasser wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am a newcomer to Rivet/Yoda and I am all alone in my quest....
> Hi Kristin,
>
> Hope we can make it less lonely :-)
>
>> I am trying to implement an ATLAS analysis for rivet and I have achieved
>> to have a full routine because of some features of the jet routine, I
>> thought I'd test the plotting side of things.
>>
>> Basically, what I have done is:
>>
>> 1) Download / create analysis
>> rivet-mkanalysis ATLAS_2012_I1282447
>>
>> 2) tried to run yoda on it:
>>
>> yoda2flat ATLAS_2012_I1282447.yoda
>> (there are some problems, output: failing to parse this line...)
> Hmm, interesting... can you send use those error messages?
>
>> make-plots ATLAS_2010_S8919674.dat yields:
>>
>> %make-plots ATLAS_2012_I1282447.dat
>> Making 1 plot
>> Plotting ATLAS_2012_I1282447.dat (0 remaining)
>> Error: max() arg is an empty sequence
>>
>> it seems there are some problems with the data definitions / how the
>> data is defined in HEP Data (and I guess, yes, there are some
>> exceptional tables, e.g. uncertainty matrices etc.), so I thought maybe
>> I'll try it just for the first 2 or 3 histos to get a feel, however not
>> even that works:
>>
>> yoda2flat test.yoda (as attached)
>>
>> % make-plots test.dat
>> Making 1 plot
>> Plotting test.dat (0 remaining)
>> dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened.
> I think the problem here is that you're trying to use yoda2flat which is
> *not* intended to produce files for plotting via make-plots, although
> the two "flat" formats are similar.
>
> Have you tried running rivet-mkhtml or rivet-cmphistos + make-plots on
> your .yoda files?
>
>> I am running rivet/yoda as implemented/setup in Athena relsease
>> asetup devval,64,rel2
> That should by Rivet 2.1.2 and the latest YODA release, so fully up to
> date. No problem there.
>
>> It would be great to get any hints, because at this stage, I am not
>> sure, whether:
>> - 2Dscatter histograms should not work (not sure even, why it is
>> exported at this)
> What is the final type of your histogram in the code? Maybe attach your
> .yoda file so we can look at it. 1D histograms should write out as
> HISTO1D type in the .yoda file, even if they have been scaled, but if
> you do something like divide two histos then you get a scatter because
> there's no longer a meaningful sum-of-weights, etc..
>
>> - whether yoda genuinely does not work (yet) with the rivet version from
>> Athena I am using (would I have to install it myself)?
> It should do (see above). I think the problem is confusion about the two
> types of .dat file.
>
>> I am also a bit confused as to whether I should implement my own
>> histograms or take the hepdata definition (to take that one would be
>> great, cause as far as I understand, this way one would be easily
>> capable of doing data/MC plots).
> If you can take what's in HepData, that's usually easiest. If you have
> problems reading the exported format then please let us / the HepData
> managers know.
>
>> Any pointer, also to a tutorial younger than November 2013 at CERN would
>> be useful. I would really be very very grateful!
> I am going to write a manual for YODA as soon as possible -- many other
> things needing to be done first, unfortunately! The Nov 2011 tutorial
> was the most recent one that I've given on the whole Rivet system...
> feels like it's about time to give another one. But I don't think it is
> very out of date...
>
>> And then a link maybe useful to you:
>> http://www.everydayhowto.net/recreation-and-sports/origami-yoda-how-to-make-a-jedi-master-from-paper/
>>
>> (production of merchandising)
> Ha, awesome! Now I'm even more pleased at our violation of Lucas'
> copyright ;-) That will be a great graphic to use if we ever add
> "folding" machinery to Rivet...
>
> Let us know if rivet-cmphistos or rivet-mkhtml help. And if you have any
> other requirements, queries, etc. -- YODA is a side-project, but I hope
> we can make it a really nice tool and provide some half-decent support :-)
>
> Andy
>

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